Cleveland’s FAA Center Evacuated

(10:17 a.m.) September 11, 2001: FAA’s Cleveland Center Evacuated due to Report of a Suspicious Plane

[MEK Note: This might be significant as Cleveland Airport has been considered the location that another airliner carrying all of the passengers and crew of the 4 “:hijacked airliners” are taken. More on that later.]

Air traffic controllers at the FAA’s Cleveland Center.Air traffic controllers at the FAA’s Cleveland Center. [Source: Paul M. Walsh]Most members of staff at the FAA’s Cleveland Center are evacuated from the facility, due to a report of a small aircraft flying erratically above the center. [FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, 3/21/2002, PP. S-19NEWSNET5, 8/12/2002ASSOCIATED PRESS, 8/15/2002

The Cleveland Center, in Oberlin, Ohio, had the last contact with Flight 93 before it crashed. [ASSOCIATED PRESS, 6/15/2002

The center’s air traffic controllers have been working on clearing the skies over the US after FAA facilities were ordered to instruct all aircraft to land at the nearest airport (see (9:45 a.m.) September 11, 2001). [NEWSNET5, 8/12/2002LAKE COUNTY NEWS-HERALD, 9/10/2011]


Operations Manager Orders Evacuation – The police in Oberlin now contact the Cleveland Center and warn it about a small plane that is still airborne and circling above the facility. As a result, the decision is made to evacuate the center. [FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, 9/17/2001, PP. 9 ASSOCIATED PRESS, 8/15/2002CLEVELAND PLAIN DEALER, 7/3/2011]

The order to evacuate is apparently given by Leo Wolbers, the center’s operations manager. Wolbers will later recall, “[W]e made the decision to evacuate all non-essential personnel and get as many controllers out as possible.” He will say that he gathers together the supervisors at the center “to make sure they all knew to tell their controllers to get the planes down as quickly and safely as possible, and then leave the center.” [FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, 9/19/2001, PP. 6-7 9/11 COMMISSION, 10/2/2003 

Non-essential personnel are sent home, while essential personnel who leave the building go to the parking lot. By 10:30 a.m., the facility will be running on a skeleton crew of eight controllers and eight supervisors.
Center Considered a Possible Terrorist Target – The Cleveland Center is evacuated “because someone feared the facility could be targeted for a terrorist attack
,” according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer. [FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, 9/12/2001, PP. 70 CLEVELAND PLAIN DEALER, 7/3/2011

But Bill Keaton, a controller at the center, thinks to himself that “the evacuation [is] a little silly.” He will comment: “Though Cleveland Center might be a great strategic target, it was an awful terrorist target. Most people have no idea what goes on at a [air traffic control] center, and the terrorists were striking symbolic targets… the World Trade Center, the Pentagon.” [LORAIN MORNING JOURNAL, 9/11/2011]


Center Is Searched – Around the time it is being evacuated, the Cleveland Center is receiving a number of bomb threats (see 10:07 a.m.-10:21 a.m. September 11, 2001). [FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, 3/21/2002, PP. S-17, S-19

Possibly in response to these, the building is searched, apparently during the period when many of its employees are outside in the parking lot. Wolbers will recall, “After we got all of our aircraft on the ground, we went to one person in each area until the building was searched and found to be secure.” [FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, 9/19/2001, PP. 6-7 

Around two hours after the evacuation, employees who left the building but have not gone home will go back inside and return to their posts. By then, though, the airspace will be empty, apart from some military aircraft, and so the controllers will have little to do. [CLEVELAND PLAIN DEALER, 7/3/2011]


Identity of Plane Unknown – The suspicious aircraft that prompted the evacuation is not identified. Rick Kettell, the manager of the Cleveland Center, will recall that it “flew off to the north and we lost radar on it.” Eleven months after 9/11, the FAA will reportedly still be investigating what the plane was and what it was doing. [NEWSNET5, 8/12/2002]

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Missiles and Plane Shoot Down

Just Before 10:06 a.m. September 11, 2001: Locals Hear a Missile Before Flight 93 Crashes?

[MEK Note: Observations of a missile and debris scattered over large area away from “crash site” strongly indicate a government back-up story and has the effect of deflecting attention away from the lack of plane and bodies at “crash site” White jet could be government observation plane monitoring in “real time” the ongoing Shanksville situation.]

Several local people believe they hear a missile overhead just before Flight 93 goes down. Barry Lichty, a US Navy veteran and mayor of Indian Lake Borough (just to the east of where Flight 93 crashes), is watching television with his wife. He says he hears “a loud roar above the house that sounded like a missile.… Shortly thereafter, we heard an explosion and a tremor. My first reaction, as a former utility employee, was that maybe someone shot a missile into the substation.” He says Flight 93 “did not come over my house. I don’t know what we heard.” [KASHURBA, 2002, PP. 158-159

Joe Wilt, who lives a quarter-mile from the crash site, hears a “whistling like a missile, then a loud boom.” He says, “The first thing I thought it was, was a missile.” [BOSTON GLOBE, 9/12/2001WASHINGTON POST, 9/12/2001

And Ernie Stuhl, the mayor of Shanksville, later says, “I know of two people – I will not mention names – that heard a missile. They both live very close, within a couple of hundred yards.… This one fellow’s served in Vietnam and he says he’s heard them, and he heard one that day.” [PHILADELPHIA DAILY NEWS, 11/18/2001

Officials will emphatically deny that Flight 93 was shot down, as some people later suggest (see September 14, 2001). [PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW, 9/14/2001LONGMAN, 2002, PP. 264

However, a number of witnesses report seeing a small, white jet plane near the crash site, around the time Flight 93 reportedly goes down (see (Before and After 10:06 a.m.) September 11, 2001).

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(Before 10:06 a.m.) September 11, 2001: Flight 93 Breaks Up Prior to Crash?

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Flight 93 apparently starts to break up before it crashes, because debris is found very far away from the crash site. [PHILADELPHIA DAILY NEWS, 11/15/2001

The plane is generally obliterated upon landing, except for one half-ton piece of engine found some distance away. Some reports indicate that the engine piece was found over a mile away. [INDEPENDENT, 8/13/2002

The FBI reportedly acknowledges that this piece was found “a considerable distance” from the crash site. [PHILADELPHIA DAILY NEWS, 11/15/2001

Later, the FBI will cordon off a three-mile wide area around the crash, as well as another area six to eight miles from the initial crash site. [CNN, 9/13/2001

One story calls what happened to this engine “intriguing, because the heat-seeking, air-to-air Sidewinder missiles aboard an F-16 would likely target one of the Boeing 757’s two large engines.” [PHILADELPHIA DAILY NEWS, 11/15/2001

Smaller debris fields are also found two, three, and eight miles away from the main crash site. [INDEPENDENT, 8/13/2002MIRROR, 9/12/2002

Eight miles away, local media quote residents speaking of a second plane in the area and burning debris falling from the sky. [REUTERS, 9/13/2001

Residents outside Shanksville reported “discovering clothing, books, papers, and what appeared to be human remains. Some residents said they collected bags-full of items to be turned over to investigators. Others reported what appeared to be crash debris floating in Indian Lake, nearly six miles from the immediate crash scene. Workers at Indian Lake Marina said that they saw a cloud of confetti-like debris descend on the lake and nearby farms minutes after hearing the explosion…” [PITTSBURGH POST-GAZETTE, 9/13/2001

Moments after the crash, Carol Delasko initially thinks someone had blown up a boat on Indian Lake: “It just looked like confetti raining down all over the air above the lake.” [PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW, 9/14/2001

Investigators say that far-off wreckage “probably was spread by the cloud created when the plane crashed and dispersed by a ten mph southeasterly wind.” [NEWS JOURNAL (WILMINGTON, DE), 9/16/2001] However, much of the wreckage is found sooner than that wind could have carried it, and not always southeast.

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(Just Before 10:06 a.m.) September 11, 2001: Lights Go Out Before Flight 93 Crashes, Allegedly Indicating a Missile Being Fired

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John Fleegle, a manager at the Indian Lake Marina about 1.5 miles from where Flight 93 crashes, is indoors with some colleagues, watching the televised coverage of the World Trade Center attack. Then, as he later describes, “All of a sudden the lights flickered and we joked that maybe they were coming for us. Then we heard engines screaming close overhead. The building shook. We ran out, heard the explosion and saw a fireball mushroom,” following the crash. When he later describes this incident while on a training course in Atlanta, Fleegle will be told that what happened means Flight 93 “was shot down.” A man there who says he is a retired Air Force officer will tell Fleegle, “[W]hen your lights flickered, [it was because] they zap the radar frequency on everything before they shoot. Your lights didn’t flicker from the impact—your lights flickered because they zapped the radar system before they shot it.” However, William “Buck” Kernan, a retired four-star Army general, will dispute this claim, saying, “[R]egarding an aircraft engaging an airborne target having an electrical disruption on the ground, no, this would not be a result of lock on or any electromagnetic pulsing.” He will suggest it is “possible that overpressure from explosions could momentarily disrupt microwave connections or cause sensations on ground relays, wiring, etc.” that might result in the lights having flickered. [PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW, 9/14/2001LAPPE AND MARSHALL, 2004, PP. 35-36

But, consistent with Fleegle’s allegation, a number of local residents—including military veterans—say they heard the sound of a missile overhead just before the time of the crash (see Just Before 10:06 a.m. September 11, 2001).

Another local resident, Val McClatchey, will report her lights and phone going out around the time of the crash. [PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW, 9/11/2002

According to Barry Lichty, the mayor of Indian Lake Borough, the town’s electricity goes out around this time. He later learns that the plane crash had disrupted service to the borough. [PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW, 9/12/2001

Interestingly, one alternative theory later suggested is that Flight 93 could have been brought down using “electromagnetic interference” (see August 13, 2002).

The US Air Force and Pentagon have in fact “conducted extensive research on ‘electronic warfare applications’ with the possible capacity intentionally to disrupt the mechanisms of an airplane in such a way as to provoke, for example, an uncontrollable dive.” [INDEPENDENT, 8/13/2002]

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Just Excuse to Restrict Crash Site from Observers

(Shortly After 10:03 a.m.) September 11, 2001: Members of the Public Take Flight 93 Wreckage from the Crash Site as ‘Souvenirs’

[MEK Note: I couldn’t find anything to back up any souvenir hunters in the references provided except for two “curiosity seekers,” arrested. I suspect authorWilliam J. Thompson either embellished this problem (or maybe was given this excuse if he had tried to visit site) in his 2017 book. I think it would be very peculiar for souvenir hunters to show up immediately at a “crime scene” especially on 9/11 after all the things that had happened. What seems clear is that the site quickly became off limits even to journalists. I just don’t believe there was a plane crash there. See Jet Flyover of Shanksville “crash site”? for more on this!]

Thomas O’Connor.Thomas O’Connor. [Source: Pittsburgh Tribune-Review]Members of the public are observed removing—or trying to remove—debris from the crash site shortly after Flight 93 goes down and some of them are arrested for doing so. [PITTSBURGH POST-GAZETTE, 9/18/2009THOMPSON, 2017, PP. 6-7

Flight 93 apparently crashed in a field in rural Pennsylvania at 10:03 a.m. (see (10:03 a.m.-10:10 a.m.) September 11, 2001 and (10:06 a.m.) September 11, 2001). [9/11 COMMISSION, 7/24/2004, PP. 30] Emergency responders soon start arriving at the crash site. “Almost as quickly,” however, according to author J. William Thompson, “legions of curiosity seekers and souvenir hunters showed up.” The “dozens of souvenir hunters” who converge on the scene are observed “stuffing objects in their shirts.” [THOMPSON, 2017, PP. 6-7

Sergeant Thomas O’Connor and Corporal Ronald Zona of the Pennsylvania State Police are among the first people to arrive. During their first few hours at the site, they have to prevent “souvenir hunters from coming near the downed plane,” according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. While doing so, they make several arrests. [PITTSBURGH POST-GAZETTE, 9/18/2009PAMATTERS (.COM), 9/10/2011

Eventually, a security perimeter will be set up to protect the site and only authorized personnel will be allowed through it. [MCMILLAN, 2014, PP. 131THOMPSON, 2017, PP. 27-28

But two “curiosity seekers,” one of them on an all-terrain vehicle, will be arrested later today for trying to get through the perimeter. [PITTSBURGH POST-GAZETTE, 9/12/2001] People are similarly observed removing—or trying to remove—wreckage from the crash site at the Pentagon, following the attack there (see (After 10:15 a.m.) September 11, 2001). [LIBRARY OF CONGRESS, 11/30/2001LIBRARY OF CONGRESS, 12/3/2001]

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Jet Flyover of Shanksville “crash site”?

Day of Terror: Outside tiny Shanksville, a fourth deadly stroke

Wednesday, September 12, 2001

{MEK Note: This is an excerpt of a longer article. I have noted in red a number of items that further suggest a military jet flyover! There was a very fast & low flight path, plane does acrobatic roll-over stunts along with creating noise to get witness attention (an airline with a struggle in cockpit can do this?), this was a regular frequent military flight path near Shanksville, a crash site hidden from witness views, lack of significant plane parts & bodies, clothes and small debris scattered on ground & hanging in trees (exploding hole filled with appropriate junk). FBI state tasks are of sealing off “crash site” first day and then investigative search set for next day. There is no temporary morgue or any search for survivors or bodies taken. Most importantly the immediate task the first day is to seal off “crash” site from public which even extends to nearby airport. Then there is the mention of a five mile trail of debris on way to “crash site” and mention & denial of a possible shoot down of the plane. Was this a secondary cover in case no one was willing to believe the “crash site” story? CIA always has believable back-up stories in case first fails!]

Rescue workers look in vain for signs of life in a crater of United Airlines flight 93 in Somerset County. (Franka Bruns, Post-Gazette)

It was there, just outside the tiny town of Shanksville, that a United Airlines jetliner crashed, killing all 45 people aboard in what appeared to be the fourth and final stroke of a choreographed wave of terrorism that was equated to the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor.

United Airlines Flight 93, a Boeing 757-200 en route from New Jersey to San Francisco, fell from the sky near Shanksville at 10:06 a.m., about two hours after it took off, leaving a trail of debris five miles long

The participants discussed a possible shoot down of the aircraft, said Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind. The North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) issued a statement denying that United Flight 93 had been shot down by U.S. military aircraft.

minutes before the plane went down Westmoreland County Emergency Operations Center intercepted a frantic cell phone call made to 911 by a passenger aboard the doomed flight. “We are being hijacked, we are being hijacked!” Agents seized the 911 dispatch tape from as part of their investigation.

Investigators who swarmed to the scene were sparing no effort to uncover the truth. The FBI is coordinating the investigation… One special evidence response team from Pittsburgh went to the crash three more teams are on their way to the site. Investigators will be around the clock collecting evidence and performing the gruesome task of body identification.

Flight 93 may have gotten as far west as Ohio before turning around. The Cleveland mayor’s office told The Associated Press that an airplane in distress had passed through Cleveland-area airspace We were in communication with the FBI and the FAA about the jet as to where it was,” Murphy said. “They had the jet coming out of Cleveland and losing it when it came into Pittsburgh airspace, and there was no communication with it, and we were concerned.”

Dennis Fritz, the air traffic manager, got a call from controllers in Cleveland warning the Johnstown airport — which has no radar of its own — that a large aircraft was 20 miles south and had suddenly turned on a heading for Johnstown. “It was an aircraft doing some unusual maneuvers at a low level, which is unusual for an aircraft that size,” Fritz to believe that the plane was flying somewhere in the 2,800 foot high ridges in that part of the Allegheny front.

Eric Peterson, 28, heard a plane, looked up and saw one fly over unusually low. The plane continued on beyond a nearby hill, then dropped out of sight behind a tree line. As it did so, Peterson said it seemed to be turning end-over-end. Then Peterson said he saw a fireball, heard an explosion and saw a mushroom cloud of smoke rise into the sky.

Peterson rushed to the scene on an all-terrain vehicle and when he arrived he saw bits and pieces of an airliner spread over a large area of an abandoned strip-mine in Stonycreek Township. “There was a crater in the ground that was really burning,” Peterson said. Strewn about were pieces of clothing hanging from trees and parts of the Boeing 757, but nothing bigger than a couple of feet long, he said. Many of the items were burning. Peterson said he saw no bodies, but there also was no sign of life. Two curiosity seekers were arrested for trying to get through the perimeter, one of them aboard an all-terrain vehicle.

Jeff Killeen, an FBI spokesman from Pittsburgh, said the main thrust of the agency’s investigation will begin today… Yesterday, the priority of the FBI and state troopers was to protect the scene.

“The FBI will follow every lead to bring this case to a successful conclusion,” Investigators did not locate the plane’s flight data recorder or cockpit voice recorder. There were 20 FBI agents on hand yesterday, and another 30 were expected last night. The contingent of 100 state troopers was expected to swell to 150. They planned to spend last night spaced out along the crash perimeter within each other’s eyesight to ward off curiosity seekers and prevent anyone from tampering with evidence.

Also on hand were officials from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency, the Federal Aviation Administration and United Airlines. A team from the National Transportation Safety Board was en route. Killeen said agents were looking for facilities in the area to use as repositories for evidence and human remains, noting that no morgue had been established.

Last night police and National Guard sealed off the airport to regular traffic, at one point shutting down state Route 219 a four-lane highway that is only 500 yards from airport property. It was later reopened, but access roads to the airport remained sealed.

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Witnesses See Flight 93 Flying Erratically, Noisy, Fast and Low

Shortly Before 10:03 a.m. September 11, 2001: Witnesses See Flight 93 Flying Erratically and Making Strange Noises before It Crashes

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Numerous eyewitnesses see and hear Flight 93 just before it crashes in a field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

[MEK Note: It doesn’t seem like anyone actually saw plane crash as the stated crash site was hidden by a ridge and trees (similar blind crash site as at Pentagon). Plane flying fast and low in military flight path. Was this Air Force jet purposely getting witness attention and then flying directly over “crash” site for effect while site is simultaneously blown with various planted plane parts and flight recorder boxes ( or were they placed later to find)! Sure explains the lack of plane parts and bodies! Looks like “Let’s roll” passenger revolt was only staged (on phone and cockpit recordings) for that “Patriotic rally Americans around the flag” effect. Although I have no doubt those passengers and the other plane passengers would have done this heroic act if they had ever really had the chance!”]


bullet Terry Butler, in Stoystown, sees the plane come out of the clouds, low to the ground. He will later recall: “It was moving like you wouldn’t believe. Next thing I knew, it makes a heck of a sharp right-hand turn.” The plane then appears to be trying to climb to clear a ridge, but it continues to turn to the right and then veers behind a ridge. About a second later it crashes. [ST. PETERSBURG TIMES, 9/12/2001]


Witnesses Hear the Plane’s Engines –
bullet Laura Temyer of Hooversville will recall: “I didn’t see the plane but I heard the plane’s engine. Then I heard a loud thump that echoed off the hills and then I heard the plane’s engine. I heard two more loud thumps and didn’t hear the plane’s engine any more after that.” [PHILADELPHIA DAILY NEWS, 11/15/2001]
bullet Charles Sturtz, who lives a half-mile from the crash site, will recall seeing the plane heading southeast with its engines running. No smoke can be seen. “It was really roaring, you know, like it was trying to go someplace, I guess,” he will say. [WPXI 11 (PITTSBURGH), 9/13/2001]
bullet Michael Merringer, who is two miles from the crash site, will describe, “I heard the engine gun two different times and then I heard a loud bang.” [ASSOCIATED PRESS, 9/12/2001]
bullet Tim Lensbouer, who is 300 yards away from the crash site, will recall, “I heard it for 10 or 15 seconds and it sounded like it was going full bore.” [PITTSBURGH POST-GAZETTE, 9/12/2001]


Witnesses See the Plane Flying Upside Down –
bullet Rob Kimmel, who is several miles from the crash site, sees Flight 93 flying overhead, banking hard to the right. It is 200 feet or less off the ground as it crests a hill to the southeast. “I saw the top of the plane, not the bottom,” he will say. [LONGMAN, 2002, PP. 210-211]
bullet Eric Peterson of Lambertsville sees the plane flying overhead unusually low. It seems to be turning end-over-end as it drops out of sight behind a tree line. [PITTSBURGH POST-GAZETTE, 9/12/2001]
bullet Bob Blair of Stoystown sees the plane spiraling and flying upside down, not much higher than the treetops, before crashing. [DAILY AMERICAN, 9/12/2001]
Plane Is Heard Making Strange Sounds –
bullet An unnamed witness hears two loud bangs before he sees the plane take a downward turn of nearly 90 degrees. [NEWS CHANNEL 5 (CLEVELAND), 9/11/2001]
bullet Tom Fritz, who is about a quarter-mile from the crash site, hears a sound that “wasn’t quite right,” he will recall, and looks up into the sky. The plane “dropped all of a sudden, like a stone,” going “so fast that you couldn’t even make out what color it was,” he will say. [ST. PETERSBURG TIMES, 9/12/2001]
bullet Lee Purbaugh, who works at a scrapyard overlooking the crash site, will describe seeing the plane crashing, saying: “There was an incredibly loud rumbling sound and there it was, right there, right above my head—maybe 50 feet up.… I saw it rock from side to side then, suddenly, it dipped and dived, nose first, with a huge explosion, into the ground. I knew immediately that no one could possibly have survived.” [INDEPENDENT, 8/13/2002]
Plane Is Seen Making a Sudden Plunge –
bullet Linda Shepley hears a loud bang and sees the plane bank to the side. [ABC NEWS, 9/11/2001] She sees the plane wobbling right and left, at a low altitude of roughly 2,500 feet, when suddenly the right wing dips straight down and the plane plunges into the earth. She will say she has an unobstructed view of Flight 93’s final two minutes. [PHILADELPHIA DAILY NEWS, 11/15/2001]
bullet Kelly Leverknight in Stonycreek Township will recall: “There was no smoke, it just went straight down. I saw the belly of the plane.” The plane is heading east and sounds like it is flying low. [DAILY AMERICAN, 9/12/2001ST. PETERSBURG TIMES, 9/12/2001]
bullet Tim Thornsberg, who is working in a strip mine near the crash site, will recall: “It came in low over the trees and started wobbling. Then it just rolled over and was flying upside down for a few seconds… and then it kind of stalled and did a nose dive over the trees.” [WPXI 11 (PITTSBURGH), 9/13/2001]


Some people will claim that these witness accounts support the idea that Flight 93 was hit by a missile. [PHILADELPHIA DAILY NEWS, 11/15/2001

Leverknight, whose home is a couple of miles from the Flight 93 crash site, will note that planes flying over Shanksville are nothing unusual because the area is a “military flight corridor.” [DAILY AMERICAN, 9/12/2001]

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Flight 93 Crash Time Discrepancy

(10:03 a.m.-10:10 a.m.) September 11, 2001: Flight 93 Crashes; Seven-Minute Discrepancy in Exact Timing of Crash

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Smoke rising, minutes after Flight 93 crashes in Pennsylvania.Smoke rising, minutes after Flight 93 crashes in Pennsylvania. [Source: CNN]Exactly when Flight 93 crashes is unclear. According to NORAD, Flight 93 crashes at 10:03 a.m. [NORTH AMERICAN AEROSPACE DEFENSE COMMAND, 9/18/2001] The 9/11 Commission gives an exact time of 11 seconds after 10:03 a.m. It will claim this “time is supported by evidence from the staff’s radar analysis, the flight data recorder, NTSB [National Transportation Safety Board] analysis, and infrared satellite data.”

It does note that “[t]he precise crash time has been the subject of some dispute.” [9/11 COMMISSION, 6/17/2004] However, a seismic study authorized by the US Army and drafted by scientists Won-Young Kim and Gerald Baum to determine when the plane crashed will conclude that the crash happened at 10:06:05 a.m. [KIM AND BAUM, 2002 SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE, 12/9/2002] The discrepancy is so puzzling that the Philadelphia Daily News will publish an article on the issue, titled “Three-Minute Discrepancy in Tape.” This notes that leading seismologists agree on the 10:06 a.m. time, give or take a couple of seconds. [PHILADELPHIA DAILY NEWS, 9/16/2002

The New York Observer will note that, in addition to the seismology study, “The FAA gives a crash time of 10:07 a.m. In addition, the New York Times, drawing on flight controllers in more than one FAA facility, put the time at 10:10 a.m. Up to a seven-minute discrepancy? In terms of an air disaster, seven minutes is close to an eternity. The way our nation has historically treated any airline tragedy is to pair up recordings from the cockpit and air traffic control and parse the timeline down to the hundredths of a second. However, as [former Inspector General of the Transportation Department] Mary Schiavo points out, ‘We don’t have an NTSB (National Transportation Safety Board) investigation here, and they ordinarily dissect the timeline to the thousandth of a second.’” [NEW YORK OBSERVER, 2/15/2004]

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Lack of Plane Wreckage at the Flight 93 Crash Scene

(After 10:03 a.m.) September 11, 2001: Witnesses Notice a Lack of Plane Wreckage at the Flight 93 Crash Scene

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The Flight 93 crash site.The Flight 93 crash site. [Source: Associated Press]Numerous individuals who see the Flight 93 crash site notice a lack of plane wreckage there:
bullet Jon Meyer, a reporter with WJAC-TV, will later describe: “I was able to get right up to the edge of the crater.… All I saw was a crater filled with small, charred plane parts. Nothing that would even tell you that it was the plane.… There were no suitcases, no recognizable plane parts, no body parts. The crater was about 30 to 35 feet deep.” [NEWSEUM ET AL., 2002, PP. 148]
bullet According to Mark Stahl, who goes to the crash scene: “There’s a crater gouged in the earth, the plane is pretty much disintegrated. There’s nothing left but scorched trees.” [ASSOCIATED PRESS, 9/11/2001]
bullet Frank Monaco of the Pennsylvania State Police will comment: “If you would go down there, it would look like a trash heap. There’s nothing but tiny pieces of debris. It’s just littered with small pieces.” [PITTSBURGH POST-GAZETTE, 9/12/2001]
bullet Scott Spangler, a photographer with a local newspaper, will recall: “I didn’t think I was in the right place. I was looking for a wing or a tail. There was nothing, just this pit.… I was looking for anything that said tail, wing, plane, metal. There was nothing.” [NEWSEUM ET AL., 2002, PP. 149]
bullet Paula Pluta, a local resident who headed to the site promptly after the crash occurred, will describe seeing “[j]ust a big crater that looked… like something had gone into it, and it rolled the dirt up around and buried itself.” “I’m looking around for plane wreckage and there’s nothing,” she will recall, adding: “I just stood there in amazement. Where did this thing go?” [MCMILLAN, 2014, PP. 107]
bullet Dave Berkebile, another local resident, arrives at the site shortly after Pluta does. However, he cannot see any large airplane parts there. “The biggest chunk of debris he identified,” according to journalist and author Tom McMillan, “was a cooling unit that was maybe eight inches by 12 inches.” [MCMILLAN, 2014, PP. 107]
bullet According to Ron Delano, a local who rushes to the scene after hearing about the crash: “If they hadn’t told us a plane had wrecked, you wouldn’t have known. It looked like it hit and disintegrated.” [PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW, 9/12/2001]
bullet Gabrielle DeRose, a news anchor with KDKA-TV, views the crash site from a hill overlooking it. She will comment: “It was very disturbing to think all the remains just disintegrated…. There were no large pieces of airplane, no human remains, no baggage.” [SYLVESTER AND HUFFMAN, 2002, PP. 160-161]
bullet Local assistant volunteer fire chief Rick King, who sees the crater at the crash site, will say, “Never in my wildest dreams did I think half the plane was down there.” King sends his men into the woods to search for the plane’s fuselage, but they keep coming back and telling him: “Rick. There’s nothing.” [LONGMAN, 2002, PP. 216]
Bob Craig of the FBI’s evidence-gathering team will explain what is supposed to have happened when Flight 93 hit the ground. “Turn the picture of the second plane hitting the World Trade Center on its side, and, for all intents and purposes, the face of the building is the strip mine in Shanksville [where Flight 93 crashed],” he will say. [LONGMAN, 2002, PP. 260] When the plane’s two black boxes are later discovered (see September 13-14, 2001), they are reportedly found 15 and 25 feet inside the crater. [LONGMAN, 2002, PP. 217WASHINGTON POST, 5/12/2002]

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